I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

I have the exact same problem which I posted here a few days ago, but have
had no responses. There is another post here as well with what seems to be
the same problem with no replies. The problem is there but no one seems to
know what to do about it.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

Another annoyance with this problem (I'd be interested if you can confirm
that you have the same behaviour), is that if you save to Excel 2003 format
and then open in Excel 2003 it pegs the CPU to 100% never to recover. :^(

Ken

"Larry F" wrote:

I have the exact same problem which I posted here a few days ago, but have
had no responses. There is another post here as well with what seems to be
the same problem with no replies. The problem is there but no one seems to
know what to do about it.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

No, I didn't get the same behavior, though to be clear - I don't have 2003 on
the same computer where I have 2007 installed. I was told that having both
versions on the same computer can cause problems. So I used v 2007 to save
the file on my v 2003 computer and reopened it on the v 2003 box.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

Another annoyance with this problem (I'd be interested if you can confirm
that you have the same behaviour), is that if you save to Excel 2003 format
and then open in Excel 2003 it pegs the CPU to 100% never to recover. :^(

Ken

"Larry F" wrote:

I have the exact same problem which I posted here a few days ago, but have
had no responses. There is another post here as well with what seems to be
the same problem with no replies. The problem is there but no one seems to
know what to do about it.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

That's what i did as well but with the aforementioned results. Bugger. Well
here's hoping some wise excel guru can help out of our common problem and my
isolated one. :^)

"Larry F" wrote:

No, I didn't get the same behavior, though to be clear - I don't have 2003 on
the same computer where I have 2007 installed. I was told that having both
versions on the same computer can cause problems. So I used v 2007 to save
the file on my v 2003 computer and reopened it on the v 2003 box.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

Another annoyance with this problem (I'd be interested if you can confirm
that you have the same behaviour), is that if you save to Excel 2003 format
and then open in Excel 2003 it pegs the CPU to 100% never to recover. :^(

Ken

"Larry F" wrote:

I have the exact same problem which I posted here a few days ago, but have
had no responses. There is another post here as well with what seems to be
the same problem with no replies. The problem is there but no one seems to
know what to do about it.

"Ken Snyder" wrote:

I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart, but with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through the Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i mean. :^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart, but with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through the Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable "rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data) from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart, but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted, the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data) from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart, but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

Is calculation set to manual? My charts take around 4 seconds to update when
I press F9 (they're based on RAND() to make them dynamic), but then I have
overloaded Excel: the file is 34 KB and I have 18 charts on the worksheet,
and no other worksheets.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Larry F" wrote in message
...
Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted, the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a
Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data)
from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't
corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays
linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure
this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet
and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i
mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart,
but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through
the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer
displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts,
the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on
how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data
range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it
it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks
like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

I'll second Larry's findings but at least in my case there are some
interesting complexities in the dynamic behaviour where some named variables
refer to other named variables that may be on a different sheet (such as
"variables" and "rollups" sheets). So the workbook scope is actually much
more ideal (and the only one that really works right now).

One side question, why is that once a variable is created you can no longer
alter its scope? I have tons of variables and recreating, renaming, and
deleting them all to arrive at a more tightly scoped set of variables would
be daunting to say the least.

"Larry F" wrote:

Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted, the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data) from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart, but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

Calculation is set to automatic, I based first cell in each column on Rand()*0+
The cells (where the data resides) on the worksheet where the chart is
embedded reference other worksheets - on the other worksheets the first cell
in each column is also based on Rand()*0+

I have to admit, I'm not sure why the Rand() is now required, in Excel 2003
charting based on other worksheets was straight forward. Frankly, this feels
like a lot of nonsense.

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

Is calculation set to manual? My charts take around 4 seconds to update when
I press F9 (they're based on RAND() to make them dynamic), but then I have
overloaded Excel: the file is 34 KB and I have 18 charts on the worksheet,
and no other worksheets.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Larry F" wrote in message
...
Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted, the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a
Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data)
from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't
corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays
linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure
this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the spreadsheet
and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i
mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart,
but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through
the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer
displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted charts,
the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice on
how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data
range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it
it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks
like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

I only based mine on RAND() so when I pressed F9 I'd get different data, not
to enforce some kind of update. I read about people having problems with
charts not updating, and I've never experienced it first hand. So I have no
relevant advice.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Larry F" wrote in message
...
Calculation is set to automatic, I based first cell in each column on
Rand()*0+
The cells (where the data resides) on the worksheet where the chart is
embedded reference other worksheets - on the other worksheets the first
cell
in each column is also based on Rand()*0+

I have to admit, I'm not sure why the Rand() is now required, in Excel
2003
charting based on other worksheets was straight forward. Frankly, this
feels
like a lot of nonsense.

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

Is calculation set to manual? My charts take around 4 seconds to update
when
I press F9 (they're based on RAND() to make them dynamic), but then I
have
overloaded Excel: the file is 34 KB and I have 18 charts on the
worksheet,
and no other worksheets.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
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"Larry F" wrote in message
...
Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted,
the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the
named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a
Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name
(Data)
from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't
corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays
linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
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"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not
sure
this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify
something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the
spreadsheet
and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the
reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and
becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i
mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart,
but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to
the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through
the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer
displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't
occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted
charts,
the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
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"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice
on
how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and
MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that
I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data
range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put
the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen
it
it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks
like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?

Download the Name Manager from http://jkp-ads.com. It has functionality far
beyond Excel's native name interface. I believe there's a version for Excel
2007.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
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"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I'll second Larry's findings but at least in my case there are some
interesting complexities in the dynamic behaviour where some named
variables
refer to other named variables that may be on a different sheet (such as
"variables" and "rollups" sheets). So the workbook scope is actually much
more ideal (and the only one that really works right now).

One side question, why is that once a variable is created you can no
longer
alter its scope? I have tons of variables and recreating, renaming, and
deleting them all to arrive at a more tightly scoped set of variables
would
be daunting to say the least.

"Larry F" wrote:

Jon,

I did as you suggested, but while the reverence doesn't get corrupted,
the
graph still doesn't update to reflect the recalculated data in the named
range???

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

When you define your range names in the first place, the dialog has a
Scope
dropdown, which initially says Workbook. Pick the worksheet name (Data)
from
this dropdown to define a worksheet-scoped name. This one wasn't
corrupted
in my tests. The reference never changes to the workbook, but stays
linked
to the worksheet.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I may not fully understand your reponse but if I did then I'm not sure
this
solves my problem. Basically what I do originally is specify
something
like:

=Data!rChartDates

Where "Data" is the tab that has the data in it. If I go back to the
chart's
properties after making this change it has automatically updated the
reference to look like this:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

It will stay with this type of reference until i close the
spreadsheet and
reopen. At which point i get the behavior I explained and the
reference
now
looks like:

=[0]!rChartDates

If i go in and replace the [0] with "Data" then it relinks and
becomes
dynamic. THis, however, is not very <idynamic</i if you see what i
mean.
:^)

"Jon Peltier" wrote:

I have seen a similar problem, not with the original dynamic chart,
but
with
a copy made of a dynamic chart. If the dynamic names are scoped to
the
workbook as yours are, the references to the workbook names are
obliterated,
converted to [0]. The corrupted references can only be seen through
the
Edit
Source Data dialog, because the series formula is not longer
displayed.

I discovered two things.

1. If you use worksheet-scoped names, this corruption doesn't occur.

2. If you save, close, and reopen the workbook with corrupted
charts, the
corruption has healed itself, and the charts are as good as the
originals.

I've also filed a very detailed bug report on this behavior.

- Jon
-------
Jon Peltier, Microsoft Excel MVP
Tutorials and Custom Solutions
http://PeltierTech.com
_______


"Ken Snyder" wrote in message
...
I did some googling this weekend and found lots of helpful advice
on how
to
make dynamic charts with named ranges and OFFSET, INDEX, and MATCH
functions.
Anyway, I was able to successfully create the dynamic charts that
I
wanted
by
pointing the series data at a named range. For instance the data
range
represented on my x-axis is derived from the named variable
"rChartDates"
which is defined as:

=OFFSET(allDates,0,MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)-1,1,MATCH(EndDate,allDates,1)-MATCH(StartDate,allDates,1)+1)

This works fine and when I put a reference into my chart I put the
following:

='F&O Analysis v2.1.xlsx'!rChartDates

This too works fine but when I close the spreadsheet and reopen it
it
has
lost all dynamic behavior and now the property of the chart looks
like
this:

=[0]!rChartDates

Any ideas?